I challenge Abel Cavada to prove he is not a Communist!!!
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 01:06:05 AM by Pete Trev
I challenge Abel Cavada, Chair of Progressive Populist, to prove his not Communist?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 03:54:28 PM by Pete Trev
I can prove he is... I call on him right now to prove his not affiliated with a radical Communist-oriented group that is calling for downfall of our U.S. Society.
I challenge him in front of all the good Democrats of Nueces County and the State of Texas and the U.S.
If is he, how dare he infilitrate our party with lies and deception and ruse. I want him to prove that he has not demaged the reputation my grand and my family have fought so hard to protect and to maintain its integrity.
Cavada what now?
Just list of 25 Progressives submitted to Socialist Party for consideration: who are they?
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 01:56:22 AM by Concerned Democrat
I want a progressive populist but not anymore. I know now the lies and deception that was going on. Kelly, Les, and especially Abel Cavada, our chairman, lied to us.
We have families and children; how dare they stain our reputations that way. My husband and I have worked so hard for what we have.
I don't want to be considered to be a member of the Socialist Party USA. How dare they add my name. Please remove it anyone. I have been crying all day, for the stupidity I had to fall for.
Do you know if the list is going to be published anytime soon?
List of 25 Progressives submitted to Socialist Party for possible membership?
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 02:01:21 AM by Karol
Why would our names be submitted to such a subversive organiztion without our knowledge and consent. Abel Cavada and John Kelley are evil, pure unadulturated evil. I suspect they were the ones either directly or indirectly responsible. I could be wrong, but I dout it.
I hear the list is going to be printed this coming week
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 02:05:48 AM by Polisurf
Many of the people in the list, all members of the CC Progressive Populist Group (led by Chair Abel Cavada) will mentioned. They are labeled, I hear, as "prospective members to consider for membership in the Socialist Party USA."
I wonder if Susie Luna's name is on it.
Leave Kelley alone: he admited he attended the Socialist USA convention & Abel
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 02:11:16 AM by Rol
Kelley said for mutual benefits. He fingered Abel Cavada as being there even though the minutes did not reflect it. Does he want to bring he don't with him - don't know.
If you decide to contue as a member of the CC Prgrogressive Populists Caucus. It is your choice and no one elses. We are mature people and there are consequences to all of our decisions.
Kelley needs to distance himself from the Candidates and the Democratic Party.
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 02:15:58 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
No Quarter my friend.
It's time John... It's Not About Parties
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 11:26:51 PM by Emma Gonzalez
Comrade,
If I as a woman was able to come all the way from Brownsville to Corpus Christi and sign my name and participate, why can't you. So what I was there at the Socialist Party of Texas Convention.
You have written for our publication and have been received as a camarada. Do you not have the cajones to say the truth Camarada?
We considered you as a candidate, as a camarada, in the inner circle of our movement. I will not deny who I am even if it is my last breath.
It is not about parties. It's time.
This Post was deletedIf I can put my name and reputation on the line, why can't you John? If I can put my name and reputation on the line, why can't you John?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 11:30:58 PM by Emma Gonzalez
All you have to do is believe our cause, and just do it. Don't shame in front of family comrade.
This post was deletedNo coercive threats are encourage
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 01:12:08 AM by Defenzor Webmaster
people can do as they please as long as they abide by the rules.
See there John Kelley......
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 11:59:14 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
Now, that is WATT I call being forthright.
Touche' Emma
Johnnie its time to face the music
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 11:59:03 PM by Karol
sissy.
If you tremble indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine.”
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 00:45:24 AM by Emma
"If you tremble indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine.” -- these words can only be given meaning by you. Les Cassidy would utter them in a second without hesitation. Will you go down in our movement as the opposite of Che?
So much for our revolution
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 00:47:21 AM by Emma
How can I continue.
Where is Abel Cavada, the coward... who made me join the Progressive Populists?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:42:53 PM by Karol
I, an ex Progressive Populist Member, want some answers from Abel Cavada, its chairman. He told me it was nothing radical and he was as mainstream as anyone can be. Why was he affiliated with the Socialist Party USA, the most radical of socialists that we know.
Les Cassidy, a local member of the Populists here is a state executive member of the Socialist Party of Texas. He sits in a committee in the CCPPC and has explained the group’s rationale and support for Ortiz Jr. as a Democratic candidate for State Representative. Cassidy wrote on the South Texas Chisme Blog: “As for Mr. Ortiz, when he was County Chair, he was receptive to the formation of the PPC (Progressive Populist Caucus) within the party. He was aware that the PPC was opposed to his father's prior support for the war in Iraq and the Bankruptcy reform bill, but as the County Chair he was more concerned with building and expanding the party than in seeking allegiance to his father's political career.” (Note: visit stxc.blogspot.com).
Currently the Corpus Christi Progressive Populist Caucus (CCPPC) and its the main steering committee is headed by a local attorney Abel Cavada who has history of being involved in socialist causes and writing many a exulting article on such deep-seated socialists/communists “heros” as the late Emma Tenayuka (the former Chairman of the American Communist Party of Texas); recently he wrote one defining Hugo Chavez, the President of Venezuela, a man who models himself after Cuba’s Comandante Fidel Castro, as “a true progressive populist” (visit www.larazaunida.com and click on the link entitled Venezuela’s Bolivarian Revolution). In this article, Cavada talks about his fascination with the Venezuelan “circles” (or Russian Marxist-like “soviets”).
Additionally, below please find a letter of intent submitted by Abel and Joy Cavada in joining the Socialist Party USA:
“We are from Corpus Christi and travel to the valley weekly on business. Abel, is an attorney and I do all the rest, I am sure you know what that means… Abel, my husband was involved in La Raza Unida in his younger years. We are seeking to be involved again. We tried a group here in Corpus Christi, but they seem stuck in the Democratic box. We are wondering about your group. We are also, interested in the rumor of you running for Congress.”
For: Steve Rossignol; Sun Oct 16 11:21:55 EST 2005
Below please find an official email response by a State Member of the Sociailist Party USA – Eric Carlos Toren:
"Hola Joy and Abel:
Great to hear of your interest in knowing more about the SP (Socialist Party of) Texas and of our still proposed campaign for Dist. 27th by our compañero Raul Cano. Regarding the Socialist Party of Texas (SPTX), SPTX is a state affiliate of the Socialista Party USA (www.sp-usa.org). As part of the SP USA, we, SPTX, ’strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own control -- a non-racist, classless, feminist, socialist society in which people cooperate at work, at home, and in the community.’ You can get more on our party at: http://sp-usa.org/principles.html
http://www.sp-usa.org/joinus/memberform.html
As far as District 27th run against Solomon Ortiz, there are still many factors that we have too look into before a major electoral campaign is started. As you, compañeros, are aware from your work in LRUP, there is ground work to be done. Right now, we looking into the process of filing, time frame, etc. We also need to build up our volunteer base and funding. Our party will need assistance in electoral legal matters, fundraising, flyering, poll watching, and starting to get the contacts needs for public presentations and evens at the key cities in Dist. 27th… If you are interested in joining the party or at least being part of helping out with our electoral work, please, feel free to contact me via email at ectoren at sbcglobal.net.
in solidarity,
Erik Carlos Torén, State Secretary
Socialist Party of Texas
sptexas at sp-usa.org
(956) XXX-XXXX- cell …”
Where is Joy Miller Cavada the new Emma Tenayuka...
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:56:41 PM by Karol
Joy M. Cavada you are so fake. Maybe you need to give your hubby a bottle of viagra.
He will feel better if he steps up to the plate; out of the hole of abulia and into the light of truth. One cannot serve two masters. Reminds him of the words of Emiliano Zapada: "I would rather die on my feet than remain in my knees." He cited that once.
She feels constrained by the "democratic box"
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 01:40:41 AM by Karol
She needs something more radically exicting?
She could try something new: staple her tongue. hehehe
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 01:43:09 AM by Just The Facts
She's a public figure now, with the IQ of a marijuana plant.
Re(1): Where is Abel
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:50:35 PM by john kelley
Someone MADE you join the PPC, did they hod you down and move your hand, did they hold you prisoner til you joined? Have you even read the PPC website local and state to see what it is we stand for. It also does not say that they ever joined, does it, Hmm, i must have missed that.
You sound as if ......
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 00:06:48 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
you are missing the point.
Maybe you can sell ice to eskimos John
And maybe you sold Socialism to Democrats in South Texas.
But now the consumers want a refund.
Give em their......
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 00:08:46 AM by Jaime & dannoynted1
minds back John!
Even if it is a "mind at a time".
K.I.S.S. Texas
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:39:32 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
Keep It Simple South Texas
Socialismo?
How has Socialism been introduced and sold to South Texas?
Under the Guise of John Kelley being a "Good Democrat".
SPTX used Prevarication and deception so as to back door South Texas.
We dont need to define Socialism any further; it has been represented and sold in a deceptive manner. Is that not enough to reveal it's nature?
You hit the nail in the head, Jaime, right on nonsocialist friend
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:56:48 PM by JVC
To the point.
Socialismos, “we are going to use our Incumbent resources to discourage (SQUEEZE) Defenzor clients
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:46:54 PM by HIMC
Monday, October 10, 2005 9:54:00 PM
Shamsie “Strong Arms” Solomon Ortiz & Rene Rodriguez
Democrats are not behind Shamsie! There is only certain clique of Democrats who want to “Strong Arm” Shamsie back into the Nueces Constitutional County Court! This “clique” (or group of “Cronies”) I will refer to as the “Shamsie Clique” or “Shamsie Cronies”. It is my understanding, Shamsie’s support stems from the Office of Congressman Solomon Ortiz and certain other witnesses to the “Capelo Deal”. Attorney Shamsie (along with George Finley {Nueces County Hospital District}) witnessed the transaction between Attorney & State Representative Jaime Capelo and Attorney Rene Rodriguez.. Capelo represented Citgo at the time and Rodriguez was in dispute with Corpus Christi Police Officers Association! (Laredo National Bank VP) Roland Guerra had to break the bad news to Capelo and then he was thrown to the dogs! Why was Shamsie never deposed? Why not Finley (deposed)? Tony “The Two Fer” was mad at Rodriguez and Capelo! What about Hugo Berlanga grooming Capelo for the JOB? I seem to remember some kind of criminal charges filed on Hugo Berlanga and his backroom politics! Now Capelo and Berlanga are both better off! They are both successful lobbyists in Austin! Then we go to the Medical Legislation! Who was it good for? Was “The Two Fer” Pro or Con with the proposition authored by Joe Nixon? The Doctor’s Malpractice insurance increased! Who made out on this deal?
Now back to the “Shamsie Cronies” it is rumored and warnings have been issued! The media is being “Strong Armed” financially! Elite and Power Brokers (Powercrats) within the Democratic Party are frowning on the media who promote any other option for the Democratic primary and certainly to support an independent will bring the wrath of both Parties! They are in essence saying, “we are going to use our Incumbent resources to discourage (SQUEEZE) clients from working with your business’ if you (the Media) speak negatively of Shamsie! Even if it is truth you are speaking! Simple, Powercrats are making threats behind the scenes; so as to affect the balance! Rodriguez’ wife sits on the 13th COA and this has nothing to do with her as I can see! I venture to say that the “Republicans for Lord Neal” are working the slate the same underhanded way of “Strong Arming”. All I can say is the recorded messages do not lie! Maybe Solomon is unaware of the tactics but he needs to be aware of these things! The only remedy is to support the Media YOU threatened to shun, blackball, squeeze and hurt (financially)! I bet you will want “equal time”? They expected this to hush the media but not this time!
Re(1): You hit the nail in the head, Jaime, right on nonsocialist friend
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:07:26 PM by john kelley
Besides if you defined socialism by its attributes you would disprove yourself or maybe you just dont know what it is.
Socialism entered South Texas by way of deception.
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:11:17 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
That is the only definition we need.
You are untrue Mr Kelley.
Re(1): Socialism entered South Texas by way of deception.
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:13:30 PM by john kelley
I never hid the fact that i met with the socialists, and i have never tried to introduce their platform into the democratic party please prove so if you can other wise you are just running your mouth again
Re(2): Socialism entered South Texas by way of deception.
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:19:14 PM by Just The Facts
A traitor might betray his country for money, for love, for fame, certainly for ideological reasons. Second, a traitor such as you John Kelley should consider choosing to change geographical location in harmony with his ideals – China, Cuba, Hugo Chavez’ Venezuela. If I had any power, I would exile you traitor.
Today we hear the Communist battle cry: "Oh, liberate the poor Hispanics from the barrios from capitalism." We recognize that Communism does not agree with our historical understanding that God is the center of history, is the creator of certain churches, and the push for the liberation of those oppressed.
Communism is based on the materialist conception of the world and world liberation. It rejects God and it rejects Tejanismo and Chicanismo and all that is ours. It calls religion "the opiate of the masses," and is devoted to stamping out religion. On Carranza show Abel Cavada, the president of the Progressive Populist told Carrazan: “Those who use religion in a radio program, are panderings to the Republican Right.” The remark of course was directed at Carranza.
In theory also, it contradicts its own claim of liberation. It is undoubtedly a liberation scheme against God and, as the flag bearer of the devil, challenges the flag bearer of God's own church. This is the conclusion we can draw on Communism.
What is Communism? It is the religion of the devil, taking on the form of a real religion to those who are gullible. I see Communism as a theoretical instrument of the devil, called materialism. Why? Because it is evil.
Why do you try to skirt the fact that you never intended for South Texas to learn of these facts?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:17:53 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
Of course the answer you supply is a year late and everybody knows you are a Trojan Horse.
Re(1): Why do you try
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:26:57 PM by john kelley
I have yet to see one proof or one fact on this board from any of the critics. I never hid it nor do i deny that i went to the meeting when it came up. so what exactly is your major dysfunction?
Seems to me this information is new to all of us
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 11:45:16 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
Some remain in the River (D Nile) and some of us feel very betrayed.
South Texas is in shock.
The Socialist Party infilterated the Nueces Democratic Party and you are part of the infilteration. Who just comes into South Texas and gets a radio station and a newspaper.
There is a Socialismo bankroll behind you Kelley.
And now to act as if there is no dinero and funding is solicited from the "Good Dems" who have put their faith and believed in you. All this was done through deception and prevarication.
Below is the proof u met with traitor of this nation. You are not a Democrat; you are lying demon.
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:32:59 PM by Karol
http://sp-usa.org/platform/
Socialist Party USA 339 Lafayette St. #303 New York, NY 10012
2006-07 Platform
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The Socialist Party stands for the abolition of every form of domination and exploitation, whether based on social class, gender, race/ethnicity, age, education, sexual orientation, or other characteristics.
We are committed to the transformation of capitalism through the creation of a democratic socialist society based on compassion, empathy, and respect as well as the development of new social structures. Socialism will establish a new social and economic order in which workers and community members will take responsibility for and control of their interpersonal relationships, their neighborhoods, their local government, and the production and distribution of all goods and services.
For these reasons we call for social ownership and democratic control of productive resources, for a guarantee to all of the right to participate in societal production, and to a fair share of society's product, in accordance with individual needs.
As we pursue a socialist transformation of society, we join with others in making radical demands on the existing system: demands that challenge the basic assumptions of a capitalist market economy while pointing the way to a new society. Although reforms will not in themselves bring about socialism, the fight for them will advance the cause by demonstrating the inherent limitations and injustice of the capitalist system. As we build the socialist movement, we organize around a platform committed to our common and interdependent struggles and aspirations.
================================================
Socialist Party Platform: Economics
The Socialist Party stands for a fundamental transformation of the economy, focusing on production for need not profit. So-called fair trade is meaningless as long as the world economy is dominated by a few massive corporations. Only a global transformation from capitalism to democratic socialism
Re(1): Below is the proof
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:43:13 PM by john kelley
As i have said, i am not nor have i ever been a member of the socialist party. I do believe in a mixed economy, you can read about my beliefs at stx chisme or in my article in we the people news, if you really care about what i believe. just exactly what do you find so wrong with what is said above, "the abolition of every form of domination and exploitation" "a democratic socialist society based on compassion, empathy, and respect" "Socialism will establish a new social and economic order in which workers and community members will take responsibility for and control of their interpersonal relationships, their neighborhoods, their local government, and the production and distribution of all goods and services." "social ownership and democratic control of productive resources, for a guarantee to all of the right to participate in societal production, and to a fair share of society's product, in accordance with individual needs." I'm confused, can you tell my how well capitalism is working for you? Pure capitalism is the domination of those with capital of those without it. If you have that much money you should be a republican. Pure capitalism does away with social security, medicare, public roads, schools, utilities, community services etc. those are socialist, and are supported by the democratic party last i looked at the platform. do you not support those things???
K.I.S.S. Texas: Who believes WATT you say anymore John Kelley
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 11:51:57 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
Who cares about the definitions being thrown around.
The one thing on which we must remain focused on is, the wolf came to South Texas in Sheep's clothing.
South Texas does not take kindly to being played. I feel most betrayed and to watch you attempt (and I do use the word attempt) to split hairs.
You came in as a "Good Democrat" and this sir you are not.
John, What a brilliant defense of the agenda of Socialist Party USA
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 11:03:04 PM by JVC
If your heart is with them, be a man and say it. The deception has gone on long enough.
Say it if you truly believe. A true statement will set you free, and who knows you might even earn my respect... I will wait 30 minutes more before bed time.
Dont hold your breath.....
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 00:40:12 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
The USSR never admitted it.
To admit it is to sink swiftly instead of slowly.
John Kelley's written words reveal everything he stands for.....
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 11:55:01 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
He has already said it and then backs away and then his passion cannot control himself anymore and he demostrates where his heart truly does reside.
One thing is for sure, his heart is not with South Texas.
I challenge Abel Cavada, Chair of Progressive Populist, to prove his not Communist?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 03:54:28 PM by Pete Trev
I can prove he is... I call on him right now to prove his not affiliated with a radical Communist-oriented group that is calling for downfall of our U.S. Society.
I challenge him in front of all the good Democrats of Nueces County and the State of Texas and the U.S.
If is he, how dare he infilitrate our party with lies and deception and ruse. I want him to prove that he has not demaged the reputation my grand and my family have fought so hard to protect and to maintain its integrity.
Cavada what now?
Re(1): I challenge Abel Cavada, Chair of Progressive Populist, to prove his not Communist?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:02:14 PM by John Kelley
So you can prove he is a member of the communist party? lets see it.
So now u tell us JOHN u met with TRAITORS to our country
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:01:59 PM by Karol
So u admit John u sad there with traitor to our country & planned with them? How dare you deceive us.
How can you possibly be a Democrat if you met with traitor to our country in a State Socialist Convention to work with them on goals that you consider of mutual interest.
Don't you understand they have a platform that calls for the downfall of Democracy; and to replace it with demonic socialism.
Re(1): So now u tell us JOHN u met with TRAITORS to our country
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:12:00 PM by john kelley
You obviously haven't read their platform as it does not call for the destruction of our country but to reestablish it on a more democratic and less elitist basis. They believe in working within the democratic system, something that seems foreign to those who would rather try and smear people. The republicans meet and work with the libertarians, the democrats have many different branches, the socialists have much in common with their platform and the democratic platform. you need to widen the base, i case you havent noticed the republicans have been winning, many of you would welcome republicans into the democratic party, HMM does that mean you are a republican?
Socialismo Defender John Kelley....
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:26:10 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
and you are not a member am I correct John?
Re(1): Socialismo Defender John Kelley....
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:28:13 PM by john Kelley
I am not nor have I ever been. Once again you are incorrect.
South Texas is my witness John Kelley
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 11:38:43 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
Let the people decide.
You are riding coat tails Comrade Kelley.
I will refrain from including the names of these Politicos you have brainwashed. You are dragging the Candidates down.
Will they distance themselves or sink with you?
If Abel Cavada has any honor left, left him respond not hide behind lies
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:19:45 PM by EX CCPPC
He should have some honor. Say the truth.
Re(1): If Abel Cavada has any honor left, left him respond not hide behind lies
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:30:39 PM by john kelley
if you trully are a ccppc member you know how to get ahold of me and find out the truth otherwise you are just another opportunista running a scam. Of course we did ban a couple of tejanos who wanted to gather info for the own group and never contributed one thing tothe few meetings they attended. they came seeking support for danny jr. for sdec which we did, but after the convention never showed again.
Socialist Party USA Platform- traitor John Kelley defends it,
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:29:48 PM by Just The Facts
http://sp-usa.org/platform/
Socialist Party USA 339 Lafayette St. #303 New York, NY 10012
2006-07 Platform
-
The Socialist Party stands for the abolition of every form of domination and exploitation.
We are committed to the transformation of capitalism through the creation of a democratic socialist society based on empathy as well as the development of new social structures. Socialism will establish a new social and economic order in which workers and community members will take responsibility for and control of their interpersonal relationships, their neighborhoods, their local government, and the production and distribution of all goods and services.
For these reasons we call for social ownership and control of productive resources.
As we pursue a socialist transformation of society, we join with others in making radical demands on the existing system: demands that challenge the basic assumptions of a capitalist market economy while pointing the way to a new society. Although reforms will not in themselves bring about socialism, the fight for them will advance the cause by demonstrating the inherent limitations and injustice of the capitalist system. As we build the socialist movement, we organize around a platform committed to our common and interdependent struggles and aspirations.
====================
Socialist Party Platform: Economics
The Socialist Party stands for a fundamental transformation of the economy, focusing on production for need not profit. Only a global transformation from capitalism to socialism will work.
Re(1): Socialist Party USA Platform- traitor John Kelley defends it,
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:45:41 PM by john kelley
so you have proved what the socialist party says, you still haven't proved that i am a socialist
John Kelley writes for Socialist Publications, attends and host SPTX Conventions but technically....
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 00:12:48 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
he wants to split hairs and claim he is not a Socialist. We know John Kelley is not a Democrat. He is definitely a DINO.
Anyway as far as your technical defenses, we will let the People of South Texas make an informed decision.
Q: "Who wanted to gather info for their own group" A: (Trojan Horse) John Kelley & Abel Cavada
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:03:52 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
Now, Socialismos control the Nueces Democratic Party.
My name better not appear as a socialist John
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:10:20 PM by Ex Progressive Populist member
I hereby resign from the Corpus Christi Progressive Populist Caucus... I want my name (and I am a Woman)... My name better not appear on the 25 member list submitted to the Socialist Party USA.
I do not want my name and family to be labeled for the rest of our days. I am not a member of any socialist or communist party or radical group.
I will hold you responsible Solomon Ortiz Jr. and Sr., Abel Cavada and the gang. You all should just admit the truth. Minutes of the Socialist Party USA and TExas have been put out. Everyone knows, stop playing word games John Kelley, Abel Cavada, give us our lives and our party back. Have some honor Solomon Jr. also.
Re(1): My name better not appear as a socialist John
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:26:56 PM by john kelley
i know of no list submitted to the socialist party from PPC, that would be against our rules, if you have proof submit it otherwise it is a lie. If you read the emails you will see that I attended as an observer to talk mutual strategy and interests not as a member. it is interesting that the emails jaime is using as proof is one that he posted to this guys site or the guy picked up from a jaime posting and happened over a year ago and he has proved no association or even discussions since. By the way it is not against the law to be a socialist. If you really are a member of the PPC you know how to get ahold of me by email or phone and can discuss your concerns other wise you are just another disgruntled ... supporter running a scam.
By Association with Les Cassidy is confirmation John Kelley not to mention.....
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:51:31 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
your rhetoric.
You and the SPTX are conjoined.
Even many of the CCPPC have admitted this and in return ask me WATT is so wrong with Social Justice.
JUSTICE does not begin with lies and deception.
Maybe JUSTUS does but not JUSTICE.
Re(1): By Association with Les Cassidy is confirmation John Kelley not to mention.....
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:01:14 PM by john kelley
no one ever informed me that i had to report my activities and discussions to you or anyone, else. sounds kinda stalinistic to me.
I am sure the "Good Democrats" who ARE loyal to South Texas......
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:09:27 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
would have booted you out way long ago had you divulged these activities and discussions.
It is always good to be truthful from the beginning else all is "fruit of a poison tree".
Comrade Kelley, you entered as a Trojan Horse.
Re(1): I am sure the
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:15:30 PM by john kelley
thats funny coming from someone who doesnt even use his own name.
Neither did Samuel Clemens use his own name
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:22:22 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
It is a Pen Name Mr Kelley.
Everybody knows who I am.
Jaime Kenedeno is prevalent throughout the World Wide Web. Good positive exposure and the Pen of War (Plume De La Guerra) given to me by one of your own Joe Flores.
Get out of that River People.
Re(1): Neither did Samuel Clemens use his own name
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:29:39 PM by John Kelley
YOu are correct, everyone knows who you are.
Then by this premise.....
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 00:24:34 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
They know I am from here and you are not.
They know to support me or stay the heck of my way.
We know,
"We're from here"
The former statement by John Kelley, "thats funny coming from someone who doesnt even use his own name" once again demonstrates Comrade Kelley's disingenuousness.
Don't even make these veilled threats. If you are gonna make a move then make it. The Great State of Texas is watching.
If it was not a threat then my sincere apologies sir.
John Kelley, why did you not inform us of the Socialismo mingling a year ago if it is so innocent?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:54:07 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
Do you think the duped Dems would have still supported the CCPPC?
Truth called trash?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:15:04 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
When one speaks truth is that called trash.
Am I Lying?
Was I lying?
One must remember, I was obtuse to Homero because I thought it was only money. Homero had referred to some websites on the show (El Defenzor Live) but I was too dammned pissed to listen. Ask Solly. I suggested Solly run as a Democrat and drop the Progressive label. Ask him. Then Homero and I would not speak about it so I began to do a little research on Mr Cassidy. Then that is where I found Mr Kelley; smack in the middle of the Socialist Party of Texas. John Kelley was right there in the middle and was the subject of A Socialist overthrow of Solomon Ortiz in Congressional District #27. The thread was titled "Three socialist candidates for District 27: Raul Cano, (Les Cassidy or John Kelley) and Carlos Morin?" Now, have you read this conversation? Go read in there a little while and come back and tell me John Kelley is a good guy. He wanted to undermine and use us. He was already doing it. He lead us to believe he was a Democrat but he is an Operative of the Socialist Party.
The above post was not posted by me the writing inside is mine but I did not post it above.
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:46:56 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
Socialism in South Texas is defined by these type of Trojan Horse Tactics.
Did you know?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 02:13:35 PM by Not for SALE
Did you know that the PPC (Progressive Populace Caucus) is a official state group that is recognized by the State Tx Democratic Party?
The CCPPC is the corpus chapter of the state group (led by Abel Cavada?)
... the alarm for when the local Tx democratic women started? They also are officially affiliated with the state party ... stonewall democrats, Black democratic caucus, MADD, Tejanos and so on.
Instead of attacking the democrats like Ortiz (jr) and Air America, you should attack the real evil!
The REPUBLICAN PARTY! What have they done? And what do you do?
Communists are not Democrats... Unless u are missing a few screws ..
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 07:44:27 PM by JVC
As for republicans and Democrats, they are not calling like the group that Abel Cavada, and John Kelley and Les Cassidy are affiliated with -- calling for a "reconstruction" of U.S. Society---from Democracy/Free Enterprise to dictatorial "socialism".
I have always been a Democrat and I nor none of my friends and family and neighbors are communists, nor seditious and traitor to this country, beautiful country of the U.S.A.
Re(1): Did you know?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 07:08:18 PM by dannoynted1
prove it!
Re(1): Did you know?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 06:02:06 PM by yep
I agree with what you said.
What have the R's done for us? nothing I tell you.
attack them not the Democrats.
If John is a Commie so be it. Do you think that people would really turn to communism?
Yep that it alright.
Glad u admit John is a Commie, but not Democrat
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 07:50:36 PM by Just The Facts
This is the issue. Deception. Their aims are not the aims of the Democratic Party. They want to establish connections with Cuba, China, Sinapore, and other communist countries so that the international revolution can be realized.
But wait, Didn't Solly Jr. admit he travel to, yeahhhhhh, Cuba, China, Singapore. Ummmmm. What a coincidence.
The punk betrayed our party. Out, and his dad, out. There is the word that applies. OUT.
Re(2): Did you know?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 07:09:06 PM by dannoynted1
watt have you done for anyone?
Re(3): Did you know?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:17:31 PM by john kelley
I am not nor have I ever been "affiliated" with the socialist party, I am a member of the Texas Democratic Women, it would be a great surprise to my wife to find out that might make me a woman. either in ignorance or disingenousness you are misleading people about "reconstruction" the socialist party are pacifists, which I am not, and when they are talking about reconstruction of society they are referring to using the legal electoral means of democratizing a political and economic system that has been taken over by economic and political elites. there is not such thing as dictatorial socialism, it is an oxymoron.
I think the Republican Party under Nixon established relations with china and they were expanded under Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and especially Bush 2 who has sold our jobs and given our capital to them, they now own a good portion of our debt and they represent anything but socialism, they dont even resemble communism, even though they call themselves that. cuba would have been liberalized long ago if it hadnt been for the republicans wanting to insure the anti castro vote in florida to continue to keep jeb in power. that too is fading now that they discovered oil off their coasts. I donot admire castro but do understand him when you look at the batista dictatorship propped up by the usa. They do by the way have a lower infant mortality rate than we do. And by the way Singapore is a democratic republic.
Singapore is more significant than you can imagine.
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:15:47 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
I am waiting on the Documentation however, I am sure Solomon Grande knows where this is going.
So u admit John u sad there with traitor to our country & planned with them? How dare you deceive us
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:00:49 PM by Karol R.
So u admit John u sat there with traitor to our country & planned with them? How dare you deceive us.
How can you possibly be a Democrat if you met with traitor to our country in a State Socialist Convention to work with them on goals that you consider of mutual interest.
Don't you understand they have a platform that calls for the downfall of Democracy; and to replace it with demonic socialism.
John Kelley smack in the Middle of the Socialismos
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:42:46 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
http://robertrowling.blogspot.com/2006/09/three-socialist-candidates-for.html
Re(1): John Kelley smack in the Middle of the Socialismos
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:32:28 PM by john kelley
the trowling post is your post or one he picked up from you why would he post it a year late otherwise, nifty little trick referencing your own post as proof.
At least it is not a denial...
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 00:28:09 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
the emails are dispersed throughout the web just in case the originals disappeared.
And many people are leary to travel to a Socialist Party website.
are they Commies also?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 06:10:59 AM by Jamie Lunes
pop·u·lism: noun - A parallel political movement in America which emphasizes the needs of working people of low and moderate income. In early American history this movement had its origins in rural America. In Texas, the populist movement addressed the rights of ranchers and land owners in west Texas vs. the aggressive “takings” of land during the development of railroads, which was supported by government. In east Texas the populist movement had its roots in usury in bank lending practices with small farmers and landowners. In both cases corporations and supporting government administrations were the object of criticism and citizen revolt. In the contemporary situation, Texas political office-holders such as Rep. Wright Patman, Sen. Ralph Yarbrough, Agriculture Commissioner Jim Hightower and Attorney General Jim Mattox, are self identified Populists, as is candidate David Van Os.
according to Jaime K's logic the names listed above are commiunist also!!!!
Sound the ALARM!
ohhhhh they must be paying you good Jaime because you cant make up drama like the stuff you write.
John Kelley has admitted in an email that he was at a meeting Socialist Party of Texas Meeting
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 02:01:18 PM by Sol
Progressive Populist is not to be considered with the honorable movement of the PROGRESSIVE POPULISTS of Corpus Christ. By the way I am a POPULIST but not PROGRESSIVE POPULIST (the latter infers being a socialist member of the USA) in othe words: communist.
List of 25 members of Progressive Populist submited to Socialist Party USA as
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 02:04:18 PM by Polisurf
prospective members, new research indicates. OUt of 72 CCPPD, 25 are already being considered for membership?
Does the rest of the Demcratic Party know? I'm sure the government does....
The Progressive Populist Party is just a cool way devise to recruit members into the Socialist Party USA and at the same time discredit the Nueces County Democratic Party.
List of 25 members of Progressive Populist submited to Socialist Party USA as
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:13:58 PM by dannoynted1
they need to proudly tell all of the nueces democrats!
watt are they trying to hide?
Re(1): List of 25 members of Progressive Populist submited to Socialist Party USA as
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 07:49:56 PM by John Kelley
Please prove your allegation or remove it, as far as I know it is totally untrue. I am actually a member of the Texas Democratic Women, does that make me a woman too!! I am not a member of the socialist party, and by the way socialists and communists are not the same thing, your ignorance is showing.
My Name Better Not Appear John Kelley
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:07:57 PM by Ex Progressive Populist Member
I hereby resign from the Corpus Christi Progressive Populist Caucus... I want my name (and I am a Woman)... My name better not appear on the 25 member list submitted to the Socialist Party USA.
I do not want my name and family to be labeled for the rest of our days. I am not a member of any socialist or communist party or radical group.
I will hold you responsible Solomon Ortiz Jr. and Sr., Abel Cavada and the gang. You all should just admit the truth. Minutes of the Socialist Party USA and TExas have been put out. Everyone knows, stop playing word games John Kelley, Abel Cavada, give us our lives and our party back. Have some honor Solomon Jr. also.
Re(1): My Name Better Not Appear John Kelley
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:36:28 PM by john kelley
if you are a member of ppc, you know how to contact me and have your name removed, you need to read the minutes carefully and you will notice i was there as was abel as an observer to discuss mutual interests, i did not nor did i ever join. there have been no names from ppc submitted to the socialist party. if you want to resign you have to email me and let me know who you are.
Why now?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:57:00 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
Why are you informing your loyalists now?
Why did you dedieve them for a whole election season?
Re(1): Why now?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:33:45 PM by john kelley
no deal was ever struck or proceeded to the point where it needed to be discussed.
Convenient answer.....
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 00:32:24 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
however I disagree. When you ran for Democratic Chair the deal was fulfilled and consummated. Even if you would have ran for Dog Catcher the deal would have been fulfilled on your part.
Why dont you refer everyone to the link where the deal is described?
question
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 05:19:38 PM by Roger Stantos
Jaime,
I was told that your on ,,, is that true? If so, isnt that against all the socialist and commie talk you have been saying? You should think twice about throwing stones dont you think?
Your "personal" approach will.....
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 07:37:41 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
only bring back the objectivity to the discussion.
Your information is inaccurate.
As far as throwing stones, my house is transparent. Throw all the stones you like.
The issue taken by Los Kenedenos is the prevarication. The guise of a Democrat. The exploitation of a vulnerable people. It is the fact Kelley did not invite the Progressives and the Democrats to the Socialist Party of Texas Convention held right here in our city at the Bayfront Inn where the Broadcast booth of Air America is located. Is it not true that the Broacast Booth is owned by SPTX Executive Committee member or members?
Welfare is the WIA. There is a pending matter with respect to this slush fund. Why not look it up?
Jaime,
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 02:12:15 AM by HIMC
Who is Gail Blanpied and Reggie Bright?
Re(1): Jaime,
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 07:55:39 PM by The Host
Their my friends. Good people.
Why trust a man who has decieved South Texas?
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 07:49:46 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
Why put faith into an entity who has no faith? No spirit as himself? Do you guys actually believe that chant?
Remember, these guys are not from here. They came to South Texas for the Politics and Government. They dont care about you or South Texas. Maybe you Roger or Mr. Kelley should run for dog catcher under the SPTX Party? Go for it DUDE!
Re(1): Why trust a man who has decieved South Texas?
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 08:11:16 PM by Mijo
The Democratic Party is no more. A stanch Democrat I have been. No more. All thanks to the truth coming out. John Kelley and comrades (the Socialist Party) control the Democratic Party of Nueces County.
John Kelley was disingenuous. He lied to us the REAL Democrats
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 11:14:16 PM by bato
John Kelley was disingenuous. He lied to us the REAL Democrats. He was giving a report to the SOCIALIST PARTY OF TEXAS of our activities. Solomon Ortiz Jr. should have sounded the alarm bell. He didn't; he negotiated with the extremists. In order for anyone to join the Socialist Party of Texas one has to abided by the platform and principles of the Socialist Party USA. It calls for a "reconstruction" of U.S. society. For the Free Enterprise system to be replaced by a SOCIALIST SYSTEM. It makes commitment to connect with international radical groups. This is seditionist. It mirros Kelley's disingenousness; and Ortiz Jr.'s political expediency and convenience and greed. I do not believe in political dynasties. It is time for the Ortiz to allow others to run for office. OUR PARTY is down and Kelley and Ortiz Jr. are to blame.
Then it is not the Democratic Party anymore it is the Nueces Socialist Party....
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 08:47:01 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
It is sad so many sould will drown in the River.
Weak leadership in Alex Garcia?
Weak minds?
They will realize when it is too late.
Seemingly, it is already too late?
I believe there will be a split ticket phenomenon this election bigger than ever before.
Re(2): Why trust a man who has decieved South Texas?
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 08:42:36 PM by la verdad
The "Progressive Communists" came down here for one major purpose-to control the minds,the airwaves and to grow in membership. Democrats and Republicans alike will help make it happen. Chairman of both parties will only serve as tamed token heads....
We need to tell ex-teacher John Kelley and the rest of their gang to simply RELOCATE....
Why can't communists be Democrats
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 10:06:08 PM by Sally Smith
I know most would agree at this point that the President of the Corpus Christi Progressive Populist is affilated with the radical socialist/communist organzation mentioned before. So in John Kelley and Les Cassidy; however, what is wrong with that?
They are fighting for social justice. They want a classless society. Demilitarize this nation. What is so wrong with these three things? Anybody?
John Kelley is an opportunistic individual he will revel in the publicity but damage the local Dems
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 11:11:02 PM by THE MAN
Juan Garcia said, "he nor his family is aligned with the communist or socialist party". None of these accusations on Juan Garcia will hold water. But Juan wouldn't have to deal with this type of name calling if people like John Kelley weren't actually associated with the socialist party. If Kelley speaks for any Democrat then the Republicans will say look at those Democrats being promoted by a socialist (they'll even say communist). Thats wrong. Kelley and his associations are what the Republicans will use against the Demos. Kelley has such a small following and even smaller stroke in the party, yet he will be Newt Gingrinch, Tom Delay type poster child (for republicans) of what is wrong with local Democrats. Since John Kelley is such an opportunistic individual he will revel in the publicity but damage the local Dems. Kelley with his sociailist views and connections are hurting real Democrats who have never been with the Socialists. Juan Garcia is too good a man, to be attacked over some ridiculous charges like being a socialist or communist. Juan is an American...an American Hero...the next state representative of district 32.
Re(1): Why can't communists be Democrats
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 10:38:00 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
These are words that appeal to the "warm fuzzies" of a vulnerable thirsty people.
Why did Kelley & Cassidy have to enter as a Trojan Horse if the cause is so righteous?
Can one answer this question?
Re(1): Why can't communists be Democrats
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 10:14:56 PM by JVC
First, Communists cannot be Democrats. Democrats cannot be Communists. These folks you mentioned were lying, used fake political identities to promote their own radical agendas.
Secondly, when they talk about "social justice" they are talking about "Social(ist) Justice" don't be fulled.
Thirdly, a classless society is not going to be achieved within this system nor though peaceful means. One, I am not nor many others going to give up our properties. We will stand our ground to this wimpy utopianists.
Finally, if you demilitarize this nation, we are cooked. Their international connections or support will move in and wipe us out.
YOu know what Sally, I challenge the President of the CC Progressive Group Attorney Abel Cavada to prove I am wrong, on this board, on this forum... please call him. I assure you he cannot prove nor justify his the false identity position he took.
John Kelley and team used him because he was a radical Hispanic who had participated int he Chicano Movement to have the defunct Raza Unida Party join him. By the way he controls www.larazaunida.com ... Most in the Chicano Civil Rights Movement hate his guts. He has betrayed that movement as well.
I challege the vendido to respond and defend the political position he took within our Democratic Party????? I give him 48 hours... if not I will have to declare victory.
Jaime, Does the name David Bright ring a bell?
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 02:10:19 AM by r a
We all know about your secret meeting and dealings with D. bright of the WATTS law firm Jaime.
Why do you lie?
Remember what you say, "if you lie with dogs you get up with fleas".
Tells us more, or should david start talking?
Does the name liar ring your bell?
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 04:48:17 AM by dannoynted1
if there are "dossiers secrets" then by all means now is the time.
Ask David Bright he can talk all he wants.....
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 02:21:58 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
Show us the documentation. Back up your rhetoric with something other than your lack of credibility.
In fact why dont you call up the WATTS lawfirm and just ask for me.
They'll patch you right through.
Did you forget about Fernandez?
Is it true....
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 03:05:21 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
the Politicians have been given an ultimatum?
The Whole Package (now till November) for Air America Advertising tomorrow or not?
We will see who gives in to ultimatums.
Hurry fork out the big bucks to the Socialist Party of Texas DINOs
Has the Caller Times been fooled by another Plaisted?
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 04:03:21 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
URL: http://www.caller.com/ccct/local_news/article/0,1641,CCCT_811_3799175,00.html
Flag ceremony to honor veterans
Ex-state Sen. Carlos Truan to speak at event
By Sara Lee Fernandez Caller-Times
May 22, 2005
Clovis Johnson, a retired welder and disabled veteran of World War II, has donated an American flag that he and other members of his retirement community will proudly fly on Memorial Day to honor the men and women who have served their country.
"The (Disabled American Veterans) sent me a flag and told me to fly it for the veterans and this is about the best way I know to fly it for the veterans," Johnson, 79, said from his residence at the Merrill Gardens at the Esplanade.
The flag will be dedicated during a 3:30 p.m. ceremony at the community's public flagpole complete with the Veterans Band Color Guard and a speech from former state Sen. Carlos Truan, DCorpus Christi, the retired dean of the Texas Senate. Truan has an aunt who is a resident at Merrill Gardens at the Esplanade.
Mikell Smith, general manager of the community, said the median age for residents is about 85, so almost everyone living at Merrill Gardens is either a veteran of World War II or the wife of a veteran.
"We celebrate this every year. This is a very important holiday for us," Smith said
Johnson was disabled in 1945 while serving as a Marine in the Pacific. He took shrapnel in the face that cut his cheek, tore his nose and embedded close to his left eye. He said doctors told him another inch and he would have died.
Johnson, a Corpus Christi native, said he hopes everyone will take a few minutes on May 30 to celebrate the true meaning of Memorial Day.
"I think it's a great show of respect for the servicemen that fought for our country," he said. "It just gives them joy . . . it shows them that someone cares."
Smith said the public is welcome to attend the ceremony and the reception following.
Contact Sara Lee Fernandez at 8863767 or fernandezs@caller.com
Copyright 2005, Caller.com. All Rights Reserved.
Carpe Diem
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 05:06:35 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
Yes, by all means, seize the day
It was asked (to me) WATT is Socialism?
I couldnt reconcile the two images / theories.
The one I have seen in the emails with the one the Progressive Populists chant.
I couldnt put my finger on it so I suggested reading the emails.
If one notices many of the leaders of this group are not from here.
We know,
"We're from here"
Why are they here?
Why now?
WATT are they offering that you guys cannot refuse?
Remember, they will "gut" you one day.
Labor Unions believe these outsiders will bring a stronger union influence but the unions already control the politics but only for the benefit of self dealers who double as political "activist" and "consultants". Unions controlling the sign making is one example of ultimatums. Use these certain entities or WATT will happen? Will certain Unions retaliate on a candidate who uses a "scab" printer?
John Kelley lead us to believe he was a Democrat but he is an Operative of the Socialist Party.
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 11:20:29 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
When one speaks truth is that called trash.
Am I Lying?
Was I lying?
One must remember, I was obtuse to Homero because I thought it was only money. Homero had referred to some websites on the show (El Defenzor Live) but I was too dammned pissed to listen. Ask Solly. I suggested Solly run as a Democrat and drop the Progressive label. Ask him. Then Homero and I would not speak about it so I began to do a little research on Mr Cassidy. Then that is where I found Mr Kelley; smack in the middle of the Socialist Party of Texas. John Kelley was right there in the middle and was the subject of A Socialist overthrow of Solomon Ortiz in Congressional District #27. The thread was titled "Three socialist candidates for District 27: Raul Cano, (Les Cassidy or John Kelley) and Carlos Morin?" Now, have you read this conversation? Go read in there a little while and come back and tell me John Kelley is a good guy. He wanted to undermine and use us. He was already doing it. He lead us to believe he was a Democrat but he is an Operative of the Socialist Party.
PLEASE DO NOT USE SOMEONE'S NAME OR SCREENNAME..
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 04:59:59 PM by DEFENZOR WEBMASTER
or you will be banned.
New Edition of El Defenzor... proves infiltration of Demo Party
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 02:07:38 AM by Maggie Kloon
Great journalism and research. I will warn my family and friends. If we don't educate our children about this things, they will become prey for the Cavadas and Kelleys and Joys of this world.
El Defenzor & family has guts to do right thing
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 12:06:22 PM by Martin Monte
I know El Defenzor is more than a business. It is a family of good people trying to protect south texas. Didos. You all have guts to keep our voice alive.
Re(1): New Edition of El Defenzor... proves infiltration of Demo Party
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 02:48:00 AM by its over
Can you say Mcarthyism?
Why not organize on the "good name" of the Socialist Party of Texas?
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 02:59:11 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
These guys come down to South Texas and all of the sudden they define who is a Democrat and who is not?
John Kelley is an exposed DINO at best. We all know how you guys feel about DINOS.
Read the emails and tell me you are not punked.
Get out of the river people.
Re(1): Why not organize on the
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 05:29:40 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
http://sp-usa.org/pipermail/sptxsc_sp-usa.org/2005-August/thread.html#423
hello, idiot Abel Cavada, leader of progressives
Posted on September 7, 2006 at 06:18:33 PM by Cynical
Abel Cavada, the Chairman of the Populist Progressives was on a low rated am Radio. When he heard the wierdo vacente Carransa, an illiterate host, talkinga about religion said.... when someones uses religion he/she "is pandering to the Republicans."
Vacente did not know what hit him or maybe he was just not cognizant of the overall implication.
Abel Cavada is booring, has no class, seems like he just woke up from a mid-day respite. Is this the Commie that wants to take over our country? He's chicken shit.
Abel Cavada, according to the late Lupe Youngblood
Posted on September 8, 2006 at 00:08:38 AM by JVC
Always pointed out to us how during the 1970s, Abel Cavada (who currently heads the Corpus Christi Porgressive Populists and letter of intent to join the Socialist Party USA) according the Late Guadalupe "Lupe" Youngblood used to say he was using the Chicano Civil Rights Movement to promote COMMUNISM.
Youngblood always predicted that he would leave the Hispanic movement in the small towns of South Texas to join with Commie Gringo. LIttle did Lupe know he would pick up a "Spiritual Leftist" tropy ...
Vendido, by any other name is a yeah, vendido. Lupe's words.
John Kelley was right there in the middle and was the subject of A Socialist Overthrow
Posted on September 8, 2006 at 03:41:59 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
Look around, the people know that Kelley was leading South Texas out to pasture.
Did you hear that rumble?
Or was it a whoosh?
I could care less if Homero gets paid; it is just the idea of somebody screwing a man after the man has helped him out.
I am making a difference in my community. Ask around?
Let me ask you, when one speaks truth is that called trash.
Am I Lying?
Was I lying?
You must remember I was obtuse to Homero because I thought it was only about money. Homero had referred to some websites on the show but I was too dammned pissed to listen. Ask Solly. I suggested Solly run as a Democrat and drop the Progressive label. Ask him. Then Homero and I would not speak about it so I began to do a little research on Mr Cassidy. Then that is where I found Mr Kelley; smack in the middle of the Socialist Party of Texas. John Kelley was right there in the middle and was the subject of A Socialist overthrow of Solomon Ortiz in Congressional District #27. The thread was titled "Three socialist candidates for District 27: Raul Cano, (Les
Cassidy or John Kelley) and Carlos Morin?"
One must remember Congressional District #27 is more than just Congressman Ortiz it includes many elected positions. One must remember they would have settled with Dog catcher. This would start the ball rolling.
Now, have you read this conversation?
Go read in there a little while and come back and tell me John Kelley is a good guy. He wanted to undermine and use us. He was already doing it. He lead us to beleive he was a Democrat but he is an Operative of the Socialist Party.
Re(1): Abel Cavada, according to the late Lupe Youngblood
Posted on September 8, 2006 at 03:10:51 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
Web Press International
Bob Rowling: Three socialist candidates for District 27: Raul Cano, (Les
Cassidy or John Kelley) and Carlos Morin?
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jaime Kenedeño
Date: Sep 3, 2006 11:33 PM
Subject: [Nueces Democrats] "If you lie down with dogs, you get fleas and
deserve scrutiny."
To: kingalonzoalvarezdepinedaxiii@gmail.com
[http://www.sp-usa.org/pipermail/sptxsc sp-usa.org/2005-August/thread.html
]
Hola Joy and Abel:
Great to hear of your interest in knowing more about the SP Texas and of
our
still proposed campaign for Dist. 27th by our compañero Raul Cano.
Regarding the Socialist Party of Texas (SPTX), SPTX is a state affiliate
of
the Socialista Party USA (www.sp-usa.org). As part of the SP USA, we,
SPTX,
"strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under
their own control -- a non-racist, classless, feminist, socialist society
in
which people cooperate at work, at home, and in the community." You can
get
more on our party at:
http://sp-usa.org/principles.html
http://www.sp-usa.org/joinus/memberform.html
As far as District 27th run against Solomon Ortiz, there are still many
factors that we have too look into before a major electoral campaign is
started. As you, compañeros, are aware from your work in LRUP, there is
ground work to be done. Right now, we looking into the process of filing,
time frame, etc. We also need to build up our volunteer base and funding.
Our party will need assistance in electoral legal matters, fundraising,
flyering, poll watching, and starting to get the contacts needs for public
presentations and evens at the key cities in Dist. 27th.
If you are interested in joining the party or at least being part of
helping
out with our electoral work, please, feel free to contact me via email at
ectoren at sbcglobal.net .
in solidarity,
Erik Carlos Torén
State Secretary
Socialist Party of Texas
sptexas at sp-usa.org
(956) 342-8689 - cell
We are from Corpus Christi and travel to the valley weekly on business.
Abel, is an attorney and I do all the rest, I am sure you know what that
means.
Abel, my husband was involved in La Raza Unida in his younger years. We
are seeking to be involved again. We tried a group here in Corpus
Christi,
but they seem stuck in the Democratic box. We are wondering about your
group. We are also, interested in the rumor of you running for Congress.
Steve Rossignol stever at moment.net
Sun Oct 16 11:21:55 EST 2005
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Hello All--
It's time to get another issue of the Lone Star Socialist out, our Fall
2005.
I've got one article from John Kelley. Anybody else want to write
something. Valley Report? Bill? Breck? Mike Y?
Houston Report?
I'd like to put something in about our proposed congressional campaign,
but I will hold off on this until after the phone teleconference to see what
we decide.
Soli
Steve Rossignol
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Minutes of the 2005 Socialist Party of Texas Convention
August 6, 2005
Presidential Suite, Ramada Inn, 600 Water Street, Corpus Christi, Texas
In attendance: Raul Cano, Brownsville; Emma GonzaLes, Brownsville; Bill
Fulcher, Brownsville; Erik Carlos Toren, San Juan; Les Cassidy, Corpus
Christi; Michael Yoder, Laredo; Steve Rossignol, Blanco County
Observers (at various times): John Kelley, Nick Braune, Linda Braune, Joan
Braune, Samantha Garcia, Greg Pason
Cassidy (with Kelley) stated that people in Corpus had been involved with
United Peace and Justice as well as the Progressive populist Caucus. They
have a radio program entitled Media Focus, and are publishing a local paper
entitled The Red Snapper. The Progressive Caucus works with SP-TX folks.
Kelley talked about counter-recruitment activities and the uses of art to
send a political message. There have also been anti-Walmart actions and a
fund-raiser for Kinky Friedman
From: Les Cassidy (mailto:
LAWLES at msn.com)
To: Steve Rossignol (mailto: stever at moment.net)
Cc: carlos morin (mailto:
goodolls at swbell.net) ; John Kelley
(mailto:greatblueheron777 at yahoo.com
) ; Raul Cano (mailto:
raucan at msn.com)
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:07 PM
Subject: Three Socialist Candidates for District 27
Steve,
What would you think of having 3 candidates run for Cong. Dist 27? Raul
Cano in the valley, Carlos Morin in Kingsville, and myself or John Kelley
in
Corpus Christi? We could have a primary and it would be a great way to
organize our party in South Texas. It's not about winning the election
anyway.
Les Cassidy
----- Original Message -----
From: Les Cassidy
To: Steve Rossignol
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:01 PM
Subject: Fw: [CorpusChristiPPC] Re: Cost of War
----- Original Message -----
From: John Kelley
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 8:05 PM
To: Patrick Phillips;
corpuschristippc at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CorpusChristiPPC] Re: Cost of War
Hey Patrick,
Hope you had a good trip. It has been busy. We are working on a counter
recruitment campaign this fall. As part of that campaign I would like to
show your film as a consciousness raiser and bill it as a Support the Troops
event, charge an admission and send the proceeds to the vets group you work
with Alyssa mentioned. I am posting your note and my response to our Corpus
Christi Progressive Popoulist Caucus who is leading the effort. Lori Busch
is in charge of the effort and will be contacting you after we meet on the
25th to follow up. Thank you for your development of this film
John Kelley
In a message dated 08/27/2005 5:40:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
raucan at msn.com writes:
We have to consider that with all the talk from labor about uniting
against
Ortiz, that the Democratic Party might be setting up the stage for Eddie
Lucio. Lucio is very popular in the Valley.
Raul
That might be true. But would Lucio be any better than Solomon? He is
somewhat of a closet Republican. Hector Uribe was in my office a few weeks
ago;
and he says that he doesn't think that Lucio can beat Solomon. Lucio and
Solomon are two of a kind.
Uribe held Lucio's senate seat for about ten years before Lucio beat him.
His office is in Austin, which gets his thinking out of the Valley.
If Ortiz does beat Lucio in the Democratic Primary, and YOU were the
independent candidate running against Ortiz, that means that Labor would
likely
unite behind YOU, especially if you can get some support from the
plaintiff
lawyers, like Les, and hung around some of the union offices and asked for
their
support.
You should come out strong about the right of poor people to get redress
from the courts. Everybody is harping about "law suit abuse." So the above
the
above position might not get you a majority of the votes. But you don't
need a majority of the votes to win in the November General Election. You
would
need only a little over a third. You would need some money that the
plaintiffs' lawyers seem to have with which to advertise and put up signs.
Bill Fulcher, Enrolled Agent, MBA
610 West Elizabeth Street
Brownsville, TX 78520-6316
(956) 541-4874
Fax (956) 544-3260
Hola Bill:
I think Raul meant that one way to bring back the official labor orgs. is,
ta-da!, Lucio!
No. I don't he is better than Solomon. Same people from the same electoral
machine.
When there was a campaign to organize Fruit of the Loom, a big underwear
making factory in Harlingen, Lucio went in and made a big speech to the
employees and advised them all to vote "NO" to the union.
If labor supports this guy, I'll be very disappointed.
What the Hell has the electoral machine got to do with it? These
candidates
think what kind of message to send out that will get them the most money
from political contributions without costing them too many votes. Since
most of
the other candidates have been farther to the right, these actions and
positions haven't cost them too many votes.
Uribe wasn't any better, although I supported him as being better than
some
of the others. But, when he was first elected state representative, before
he became senator, he came out in favor of the "right-to-work law.
Raul should send out the message that he wants to protect poor people from
quack doctors and insure them just reimbursements when they are
injured--and
support working people's rights. I'm sure we can think up some.
Add boogur-nose Solly to the list
Posted on September 7, 2006 at 11:53:42 PM by Serious
What a bozo "Solly" is. He hates his own people and culture but will socialise with Godless Commies, pure unmitigated EVIl.
Just glad he was not raised in our hometown of Robstown. Punki
Re(1): Add boogur-nose Solly to the list
Posted on September 7, 2006 at 11:57:46 PM by Add fartknockur Andrade to the list
What a retard.
Remember the BNP?
Posted on September 8, 2006 at 03:46:34 AM by Haley (the genuine article)
And somewhere down the line Singapore and the deviance of our Congressman will come into play.
WATT happened to Lencho?
Did he get old or is the water to hot in the Port of Brownsville.
I still have the documents Rowland.
And there is plenty more to come.
Re(1): Remember the BNP?
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 02:28:57 AM by Hot Water
BND fires Port of Brownsville director
BY EMMA PEREZ-TREVIÑO
The Brownsville Herald
September 8, 2006 — Brownsville Navigation District commissioners on Wednesday fired CEO and Port of Brownsville Director Bernard List after less than a year on the job.
The sole dissenting commissioner, Peter M. Zavaletta, described the move as a return to self-dealing and cronyism.
Board Chairman Martin Arambula did not return calls for comment on Thursday, but he did issue a brief statement.
“While we believe that Mr. List has many fine qualities as a port director, the board at this time wishes to go in a different direction,” Arambula stated. “We wish Mr. List the best in his future endeavors.”
Arambula did not elaborate on the board’s new direction. Vice Chairman Luigi Cristiano also did not return a telephone call for comment.
List, who would have finished his first year with BND on Monday, was away from the office Thursday and was not expected to be in today, staff said. List also was not available for comment.
Arambula and Cristiano voted to terminate List together with board Commissioners Roy de los Santos and Carlos Masso at Wednesday’s meeting, following a closed session.
Zavaletta said Thursday that it is a sad day for all who love the port and truly want it to be the port of Texas.
“This vote unquestionably marks a return to the culture of incestuousness, self-dealing and cronyism that bred the spending of $21 million in public monies on a non-existent bridge, with little to no shame or remorse,” Zavaletta said.
“By firing Mr. List after only one year at the helm, this board has seriously injured the port and greatly impaired its ability to attract the most qualified, competent and degreed candidate to succeed him for fear that any successor would be subjected to the same treatment, if not worse, than Mr. List was,” he said. “Sadly, instead of selecting a successor from among the best, this board has relegated the port to sift from among the leftovers of the leftovers.”
Zavaletta said numerous residents attended Wednesday’s meeting, voicing their support for List, including former Brownsville Mayor Blanca Vela and former BND Commissioner Joe Gayman, who said List had been the best of 46 applicants and urged the board to renew his contract.
Zavaletta said that others included Tony Capella, representing the maquiladora association from Matamoros, and Richard Jaross, president of Esco Marine, who noted that List has vision and is without a political agenda.
Nick Shaw, president of the Bedoli Group and on BND’s master plan committee, also voiced support for List as did Bill Connor.
The board also heard from Juan Carlos Marquinez with Aceros Planetas Mexico in the steel industry, who also expressed support for List.
List was selected last year after an extensive search following the death of Raul A. Besteiro, the former CEO. List relocated to Brownsville from Florida.
Arambula and Masso have worked with List for about three months since their election this summer to the BND board.
eperez-trevino@brownsvilleherald.com
Posted on Sep 08, 06 | 12:00 am
Re(2): Add boogur-nose Solly to the list
Posted on September 8, 2006 at 02:01:51 AM by Comandante Soli
Joe Blow sued his own neighbor due to a dog fight... Air America Firm (azzholu) as his lawyer. What a joke he is not to mention a social (ist) peewee!
just look it up in the net records. In black and white.
Hey, You are going to have to do better than that....
Posted on September 8, 2006 at 03:20:46 AM by Haley ( the genuine article)
First of all your information is wrong with David Bright. He does not represent me in any case nor has he represented me. Put the court record out and show us where this is true.
Next, I dont have to be politcally correct and I could care less WATT you try to spill out of that pussy cat mouth of yours.
Next, I will be sure to call Whataburger tomorrow and let them know just how uninjured you are.
Now to the heart of the matter, Olga is a married woman. I will make the call tomorrow to let her hubby (who is ill) know just exactly how close you guys are.
Then we will go to South Texas and let them see WATT a two timer we have for DMC Board of Regents.
So you want to play hard ball with that injection of $$$$$$$$$. I have not even begun little boy. You dissapoint me.
Oh, yeah who gave you the dough?
Now, we know why you are so cocky.
You suck dude.
"If you lie down with dogs, you get fleas and deserve scrutiny."
Posted on September 8, 2006 at 03:09:41 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
Re: "If you lie down with dogs, you get fleas and deserve scrutiny."
From: Jaime Kenedeno kingalonzoalvarezdepinedaxiii@gmail.com
To: John Kelley greatblueheron777@yahoo.com
Date: Sep 6 2006 - 5:25pm
Why have you not been forthright with the people who have put their faith
behind you? There is much more than you sitting in on a meeting John Kelley.
You are an active participant in the Congressional District 27 SPTX
infilteration. Socialism is not against the law and in fact it is your right
as an American to practice WATT ever ideology you choose. But why decieve
and operate as a Democrat? The people at STXC have been harping on DINOs.
Well you are the epitomy of a DINO. As far a myself and Social Programs for
disability; your information is wrong. Nobody gives me anything. The
programs you mentioned would change if we were undermined by a Socialist
Party like the one SP-TX. Hey dude, just admit it to these people who put
their faith in you. That is the best thing you can do. If you choose to
resist Mr Davila will grow tired of the problems you create.
On 9/4/06, John Kelley wrote:
jaime,
let's see you have proved that i sat in on a sptx in a meeting a year ago
where we talked about issues we had in common, what a biggy. Last I knew
socialism wasnt outlawed in the U.S. Besides, it is my understanding you
are living off from a socialist program, disability. Medicaid, medicare,
social security, public roads, schools, and other services are examples of
socialism. I guess you can be forgiven for not knowing that.
john
On 9/3/06, John Kelley wrote:
Dear Jaime,
I have placed your incoherent, ignorant, useless ramblings on my spam
list. Thought I'd do you the courtesy of letting you know.
John Kelley
--
Kenedeno & Associates
--------------------------------------------------
Hey John,
Thanks for letting me know. Maybe you should have let South Texas know of
the SPTX affiliation from the beginning? Are you aware of the evidentiary
support it took for me to make these incoherent ramblings as you refer to
them. Be sure to keep checking your spam box. I am preparing to blast a few
thousand emails containing not my ramblings; but the ramblings of you and
your Socialist Party of Texas Comrades. One of the discussions is regarding
the 27th Congressional District. I voted for you John Kelley. I too believed
in your rhetoric. We will let South Texas be the Judge.
TTFN
Re(1): Talk show hosts
Posted on September 8, 2006 at 10:46:43 AM by Elwood Blues
Yo,Jaime..just to make sure I'm on the same page..wasn't it you who was telling me here a couple months ago what a great guy John Kelley was? Wasn't it you or Danno who were trying to get me to listen to his radio show?..who told me that I needed to start listening to these guys more often?
Guess the honeymoon's over,eh dude? This is why you should take all these talking heads on the radio with a grain of salt..no matter who they are.They all start out square enough..they're going to give you a "different perspective"..they're going to "educate you"..they're going to "tell it like it is".."give you the facts no one else will give you"..blah blah blah..but eventually they all end up the same hurdy-gurdy players standing on the street corner,trolling for an audience.Some people catch on pretty quick..others,it takes a little more time..still others never do.
Re(2): Talk show hosts
Posted on September 8, 2006 at 04:23:20 PM by Jaime & dannoynted1
amen eb!
south texas chisme can't handle the truth!
Posted on September 6, 2006 at 08:32:31 PM by dannoynted1
john kelley tell everybody to man the life boats and row to land. The Ship is sinking.
Re(1): south texas chisme can't handle the truth!
Posted on September 7, 2006 at 02:51:26 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
Singapore?
Solomon Grande?
Solomoncito?
Shamsie?
SPTX leveraged the 27th Congressional District.
WATT did they use?
who can't handle the truth?!
Posted on September 7, 2006 at 03:32:57 AM by dannoynted1
BlogThis!Texas State Representative House District 33
Wednesday, September 06, 2006
Now the priceless gift provided from an unlikely source
CONFIDENTIAl
9/7/06 1:10:05 AM
House district 33 of Corpus Christi, Texas received a gift from an unlikely source………. The Governor.
Now in November the voters will get to vote (their way) in the true spirit and fundamental nature of democracy.
On August 13, 2006 the democratic precinct chairs were asked to vote in the act of the actual voters vote.
The voters of district 33 did not ask this position; but NOW the real primary vote will happen for the voters of HD33.
Legally Allowed, A GIFT of a true vote is ~~~~~~~~to vote in November!
Voters will, as a final point, have their chance to say watt and whom they want despite the fraud of those who have attempted to exploit the voters and the people of who love and care @South Texas!
The Founding Fathers would be proud!
posted by dannoynted1 @ 11:49 PM 0 comments links to this post~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thursday, August 31, 2006
Now, at least it will be a vote of the constituents of HD #33.
STATEMENT OF SOLOMON P. ORTIZ, JR.
DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR STATE REPRESENTATIVE, DISTRICT 33
(In response to the Governor calling a special election for House
District 33)
"The day I filed to run for House District 33, I did it with the
intention of providing the constituents representation in their best
interest. It is within the Governor's authority to call for a
special election in this race and look at his decision as a benefit"
People's Forum? or Communist forum?
Posted on September 5, 2006 at 10:15:16 PM by Turned of by Democratic Party Decption
The Progressive Populist Socialists are now trying to control the main schedule of the N.C. Democratic Party. Why the People's forum (People's republic of Mao?)... Hey, we need to pull the weeds that have grown inside the yard of the Democratic Party. John Kelly ... Ortiz Jr. let them in. He has to be held accountable. He should have informed us instead of breaking bread with them.
Solly should rebuke the censorship of the STXC.....
Posted on September 6, 2006 at 02:40:26 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
he must rebuke these YANQUI Socialists as well.
Solly has made the committment to creating open government
The Ortiz "progressive" supporters demand and practice censorship. These kind of bad faith actions are losing this thing for Soli.
What are the "chismosos" afraid of?
Are they not the ones who claim to speak "truth to power"?
Are they not the ones who loathe DINOs?
These guys (WTP Soviet) are bad news for any circle in which they revolve.
Re(1): Solly should rebuke the censorship of the STXC.....
Posted on September 6, 2006 at 03:00:06 AM by herownself
What is sad about the John and Solly connection is that last year John was bad mouthing Solly to the nth degree. Now he acts as if they have always been bosom buddies. I hope Solly is aware of this and is protecting himself.
http://stxc.blogspot.com/2006/09/hd33-has-ortiz-mccomb-and-noyola.html
Sylvia Samniego of the Founder of PPC will be on KEYS in the Morning.
Posted on September 6, 2006 at 02:23:42 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
WATT did she know?
WATT does she know now?
Will she distance herself and the PPC from Comrade Kelly and the SPTX?
Certainly, one realizes this radio station is unamerican and "We the People" is not us, the people of South Texas.
This goes much deeper into our already established power structures.
The goal is to DISTRUCT our established groups and organizations. To do this they must infiltrate as posers of political parties, city and county governments. Even if they get a SPTX member elected to "Dog Catcher".
In their (SP TX) own words,
"If we want to build a party, we need to get some candidates elected, even if
it is only for dog catcher."
http://sp-usa.org/pipermail/sptxsc_sp-usa.org/2005-August/000385.html
In an article, What is Progressivism?
Populist Political Progressivism is defined:
"To distruct of concentrations of power in the hands of politicians, corporations, elite families and special interst groups as represented by political and conservative political action committees, lobbies, or think tanks."
*WTP June 5, 2006 (no author).
The SPTX works it's way into established groups of people ie; Organizations, Clubs, Labor Unions and any who might be vulnerable. Thirsty souls will drink from the well, it does not matter who's well it is. Same goes for poor, disenfranchised and the ones who need the alliance for expediency. Once dependence matures, the distruction begins.
SPTX Counter Recruitment: NYU and the University of Texas-Pan American (UTPA).
Posted on September 7, 2006 at 02:01:47 AM by Suson@DoD
Student Protest Prevents CIA Recruiting Rvent at New York University
-Press Release by Elizabeth Wrigley-Field and Sam Pipp
A planned CIA recruiting event at New York University (NYU) was cancelled after the Campus Antiwar Network (CAN) called a protest demanding the CIA abandon its recruiting program at NYU. 20 hours before the recruiting event was scheduled to begin, its organizers sent an email to all those who had registered, headlined, "The CIA Speaker Event scheduled for Thursday, March 31 @6PM has been CANCELLED due to the possibility of a protest by the Campus Antiwar Network."
The event -- which was scheduled to include speakers from the CIA, a dinner, and a raffle for prizes such as an iPod Shuffle -- was organized by students in an NYU marketing class whose classwork for the semester is to market the CIA to their peers at NYU. They will be graded on their efforts; the CIA, which provided them a $2500 budget for their project, retains ownership of the marketing campaign they create. The CIA hired the company EdVenture Partners to broker this arrangement.
This alliance between the university and the CIA to market CIA employment on campus is taking place at only two universities this semester: NYU and the University of Texas-Pan American (UTPA). Students at both schools have rallied in protest against the program.
"We believe they're testing the waters to see how brazenly they can recruit on campuses without encountering student opposition, before spreading programs like this to colleges across the country," said Elizabeth Wrigley-Field, a senior at NYU and member of the Campus Antiwar Network. "Forcing them to cancel their big speaking event is a huge victory. It showed them they can't market an agency that supports torture and murder around the world without a fight."
After the event was cancelled, about twenty students rallied in celebration outside the building where it was scheduled to have been held, passing out fact sheets about the CIA's history of assassination attempts and support for brutal dictatorships. Ten students went to challenge the event's organizers to a public debate on campus about the CIA -- an offer which was declined.
"Their marketing campaign says they want to 'dispel the myths' about the CIA," said David Florey, a senior at NYU and member of the Campus Antiwar Network. "But they refused our offer to debate. They can't dispel the reality of the CIA's own practices. It's not a myth that the CIA organized the program in Afghanistan that trained Osama bin Laden."
PART OF A NATIONAL COUNTER-RECRUITMENT MOVEMENT
NYU's protest comes in the context of a counter-recruitment movement that has swept colleges and high schools across the country. Students at schools ranging from Seattle Central Community College and San Francisco State University on the West Coast, to City College New York and and Southern Connecticut State University on the East Coast, have chased military recruiters off their campus this schoolyear.
Expensive private colleges like NYU don't get the same kinds of military recruiters. The only recruiters NYU has seen this year came from the Judge Advocate General (the legal arm of the military), which faced protest from NYU students opposed to the discriminatory Don't Ask, Don't Tell and the prosecution of war resisters. But students at NYU see their CIA Off Campus campaign as a contribution to the national counter-recruitment movement.
"We know that because of the general affluence of the students at NYU, direct military recruitment will never be as fruitful as the government would hope, but in the past few months, we've seen a significant increase in the presence of OTHER forms of recruitment for militaristic operations," said Sam Pipp, a sophomore at NYU and member of the Campus Antiwar Network. "This CIA recruitment in the guise of a class represents a campaign of sorts on the part of the government to pull as many as they can into the military machine."
"We're here as part of a growing counter-recruitment movement that has the potential to stop Bush's ability to carry out his agenda of war and terror," said Leia Petty, a member of the Campus Antiwar Network, at the protest. "We're here to say that torture and terror are not career opportunities, and we don't intend to back down until the CIA drops all efforts to recruit at NYU."
THIS PROTEST IS JUST THE BEGINNING
Two days before NYU's protest, students at UTPA had protested the CIA recruiting event at their campus, where the CIA is explicitly marketing itself as an employer of choice for Latinos. "I think the students in the marketing class are naive to think they're offering any opportunity to Hispanics," said Samantha Garcia, president of Students for Peace and Justice and the University Socialist Forum at UTPA, two groups that protested the CIA. Garcia noted the CIA's history of involvement in Latin America, such as its involvement in the overthrow of Chile's left-wing leader Salvador Allende and its support of Nicaragua's Contras.
At both schools, students plan to keep fighting the CIA presence and opposing the U.S. occupation in Iraq, which they see as intimately connected. "Bush says we're bringing democracy to Iraq," Wrigley-Field said. "But the history of the CIA shows the U.S. is the last country that can bring democracy anywhere."
Re(1): People's Forum? or Communist forum?
Posted on September 5, 2006 at 11:28:10 PM by Want Entire List- Progressive Socialists
I want to know who they all are. We need to investigate them all. WE NEED TO KNOW IF THEY HAVE BEEN ATTENDING COMMUNIST MEETING... if so they need to be reported, and ousted from our party.
Re(2): People's Forum? or Communist forum?
Posted on September 7, 2006 at 03:44:04 PM by Elwood Blues
Isn't it ironic that the same people who are wetting themselves over the perception that "communism" has reared it's ugly head within the South Texas Democratic Party,are..by and large..the same people who "long for the return of Aztlan"?
Think about it..the definition of communism is:
"A theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common,actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state"...or..
"A system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party".
Now..from what I've seen of the Aztlan crowd..it seems to me that a form of COMMUNISM is what they aspire to.A society wherin the people,as a whole, hold the wealth..wherein all businesses are owned by the people,as a whole,..all property is owned by the people,as a whole.
A system of government that eschews capitalism,the free market and free enterprise,where individuals themselves do not own property and land..instead,everything is owned collectively by the people themselves..that land,businesses and property are to be seized and "returned" to the people..isn't that the economic premise of Aztlan?
That,my friends..by definition..is communism..and from what I've read both here,and from other sources on the proponents of Aztlan,communism is what they aspire to.
That being said,I find it both surprising and mildly amusing that there are people are outraged over the notion that communism may be infiltrating area Democratic politics.Personally,I have no dog in this fight..I wouldn't vote for either Noyola OR Son of Sol on a bet,and I suspect the charges being leveled here against Son of Sol have more to do with sour grapes on the part of Noyola supporters,seeing as he lost the Dem nomination to Son of Sol,than any tangible proof he's a communist,but hey..whatever works.If tagging Son of Sol a communist is what it'll take to get his worthless,scumbag old man finally voted out of Congress in November,then by all means..knock yourselves out.Call him Lenin,compare him to Mao,say he's related to Castro for all I care..as long as it sends his old man packing in the process.
Hell..I'll even start a "chisme" for you Son of Sol haters..I heard from a friend of a friend of a guy who mows Son of Sol's next door neighbor's yard,that Sol Jr. has a commie flag hanging in his garage,and that he's thiking of naming his firstborn son "Karl Marx Ortiz".
Culture of Aztlan and Communism not same
Posted on September 9, 2006 at 08:05:24 PM by Maggie
Being proud of one's native american culture is not communism. You way our there. If there are Aztlanos, who want to break from this country. It is not what I or those I know condone. We are not stupid to believe that we can win any war against ourselves.
EB, keep in mind that a few years ago, Mexican americans were denied their native american heritage by catholic schools as well as public. We used to get slapped on the mouth etc. It is pride to be part of the first americans. You just don't know.
Re(3): People's Forum? or Communist forum?
Posted on September 7, 2006 at 05:21:17 PM by dannoynted1
insightful as usual eb
Re(2): People's Forum? or Communist forum?
Posted on September 7, 2006 at 00:13:07 AM by All Commies!
YeS!
The Defenzor! has finally done it!
Thankyou for Stoping the Red Army!
Hahahaaa How much are they paying you to keep up this JOKE! hahaha you guys are pathetic!
Re(3): People's Forum? or Communist forum?
Posted on September 7, 2006 at 02:59:02 AM by Solly's cousin
It disturbs me how much influence John has over my cousin. I warned him. To this day his eyes light up when John contact him.
What is wrong with him?
Re(4): People's Forum? or Communist forum?
Posted on September 7, 2006 at 03:20:29 AM by aggie
it must be the "one mind at a time" chyme or shyme!
Must be working......
Posted on September 7, 2006 at 01:16:11 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
on "One Mind At A Time".
If it was not a big deal then why didnt the CCPPC proudly announce their affiliation with the Socialist Party of Texas. Why not invite everyone to attend the Socialist Party Convention held at the Ramada Inn, 600 Water Street, Corpus Christi, Tx? The same place where Comrade Kelley now broadcasts from.
Kelley admitted Socialist Party of Texas Loyalist committed fraud upon the people of South Texas and the Nueces Democratic Party. He also lied on an election instrument so as to run as a Democrat. Tampering with Government Documents. This is subversion of Government and Election Fraud.
BEWARE OF THE COMMUNIST POPULIST UPRISING.
Posted on September 3, 2006 at 07:00:08 PM by La Verdad (Le Truth)
They have been here for awhile disguising themselves among the Democratic Party. The Ex Democratic Party Chairman Solomon Ortiz Jr. knew this and expressed freely "I don't believe like my old man". Solomon jr. endorsed John Kelley as party chair. When John Kelley lost the race he blamed it on El Defenzor. He failed to realize that when it comes to the integrity of El Defenzor, it has wide and popular support both from liberals and moderates and even level-headed radicals as well. The reason: it has both a track history of truthfulness and internal gumption.
On the other hand, the mentioned group of Communists headed by John Kelley are being exposed by their own doing and by their own irrelevant platform.
Re(1): BEWARE OF THE COMMUNIST POPULIST UPRISING.
Posted on September 4, 2006 at 02:50:38 PM by Jesse
Great show today on 1440 keys.
I am not supporting any Ortizes
Posted on September 5, 2006 at 02:08:05 AM by Josie
The brilliant expose on the Corpus Christi Progresssive Populist Caucus clearly demonstrates no exaggeration was injected. The facts do speak for themselves. I have checked many a link, googled it, and found all the sources are true.
I refuse to be in denial and expect that action be take by my party leaders.
Re(1): I am not supporting any Ortizes
Posted on September 5, 2006 at 11:25:47 PM by Just The Facts
The Ortiz Dynasty need to come down. It will only perpetuate the corruption and frateralization with subverstionist communists. It has send our Democratic Party back many years.
Jr., instead of warning us, made a deal with them. He sold his soul, spoiled "red" brad.
"The public has a right to know
Posted on September 7, 2006 at 03:44:53 AM by Porter Goss -
Porter Goss - 01:55pm Aug 28, 2006 Central
Secret senator blocks bill, creating classic 'whodunit'
Something may be afoot as legislation that would provide database to track federal spending may never be voted on
WASHINGTON - In an ironic twist, legislation that would open up the murky world of government contracting to public scrutiny has been derailed by a secret parliamentary maneuver.
An unidentified senator placed a "secret hold" on legislation introduced by Sens. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., and Barack Obama, D-Ill., that would create a searchable database of government contracts, grants, insurance, loans and financial assistance, worth $2.5 trillion last year. The database would bring transparency to federal spending and be as simple to use as conducting a Google search.
The measure had been unanimously passed in a voice vote last month by the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee and had support from heavy hitters such as Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y. It was on the fast track for floor action before Congress recessed on Aug. 4 when someone put a hold on the measure.
Now the bill is in political limbo. Under senate rules, unless the senator who placed the hold decides to lift it, the bill will not be brought up for a vote.
"It really is outrageous to do this in the dead of night as Congress is recessing," said Gary Bass, executive director of OMB Watch, a budget watchdog group based in Washington. "The public has a right to know how the go
Porter Goss..Dem crusader,ladies and gentlemen..LOL
Posted on September 7, 2006 at 03:58:22 PM by Elwood Blues
LOL..trolling the waters over in this neck of the woods now,Porter? You'll probably have better luck here,as most everyone here is a Democrat.On the downside,though..only a few of them are up to speed on politics outside South Texas.
Oh..and btw..TWO senators placed a "secret hold" on the legislation..A Republican..Ted Stevens..and a Democrat..Robert Byrd..two of the biggest pork barrel spenders in Washington.
Since we both know that since Stevens is a "Repuke",then it's a given he's scum..but is Byrd scum,too..or does he get a free pass because he's a Dem?
Re(1): I am not supporting any Ortizes
Posted on September 5, 2006 at 10:58:19 AM by learn to espell
Good because Ortizes are not on the ballot. Ortiz's are
http://nuecespresidentialsuite.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-am-hoping-that-les-in-corpus-will-be.html
Posted on September 6, 2006 at 03:51:09 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
I wonder the History of the Inn's Presidential Suite.
Good Piece of Local Trivia?
Re(2):)supporting any Ortizes
Posted on September 5, 2006 at 08:56:55 PM by dannoynted1
why was a socialist running for nueces county democratic chair?
when he was/is not a democrat?
that is a dino!
i voted for mumphord!
Wrong . . .
Posted on September 5, 2006 at 04:18:35 PM by Grammar Fairy
. . . oh illiterate one. Ortiz's is the possessive case.
Re(1): Wrong . . .
Posted on September 5, 2006 at 08:58:37 PM by dannoynted1
or is it the progressive case?
hehehehe. Progressive cause or clause
Posted on September 5, 2006 at 11:20:48 PM by JVC
Comandante Vicente Clause.... hehehehe.
Commies organizing in Nueces County, progressive populists?
Posted on August 28, 2006 at 03:51:15 AM by Realistic Patriot
The group is led by some folks who came from up north... they call themselves progressive populists...
They handpicked the flowers from the garden... Hispanic who have been involved with the Chicano movement in a tapid manner but have a socialist leaning... Abel Cavada, an CC attorney, is the Prest of the Corpus Christi Progressive Populist Caucus (CCPPC). If you google his name on the internet... u will find he published in "La Nueva Raza" (progressive socialist Hispanic publication) a tribute to Emma Tenayuka (who married Homer Brooks)... Emma was recruited into the communist party of texas at 17 or so... She became the PRest eventually of the Texas Communist Group...
Abel Cavada defines a true progressive populist his his article on the Bolivorian Revolution... (go to larazaunida.com)... He has Hugo Chavez (President of Venezuela who models himself after Fidel Castro and Lenin) is, according to Cavada, "a true progressive populist... read the internet article...
Why does the air america core group/ say they are socialist? why do they cravenly hide behind the "Democratic Party" under the "CCPPC"? They have always operated that way...
JOhn Kelley put posters of Lenin, Trotsky, Mao, Eugene Debs, Big Bill Haywood (member/leader of the American Communist Party and IWW)...Marx, and several other communist... Some of the quotes on the posters openly condemn the U.S. and its form of Government...
Are people really that naive? Naif?
First and Foremost Homero Villarreal is My Friend.
Posted on August 29, 2006 at 03:27:26 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
Monday, August 28, 2006
WATT serious Democrat would welcome Communists into it's party
First and Foremost Homero Villarreal is My Friend.
Politics are meaningless, when it comes to this kind of slouchy thoughtless and pissy rebuttals. Solly, Juan and Jimmy I extend my hand out at this time and request another solution. Hey, if you guys want to be Progressive Democrats then come out and explain it to us. Don't backdoor South Texas. I promise you, it will be a big mistake. Do you really want to test the BYTE? Do you think I will back down? He wont admit it, but even Vicente is disenchanted. We The People Newspaper is not representative of the name "it should be called the Abel Cavada & John Kelly Newspaper"
It aint worth it guys?
Monday, August 28, 2006
Homero Villarreal
On today's Carranza Show a caller said that he had heard an annoument that tomorrow with Bob Jones, Homero was going to expose the communist in the Demorcatic party. IT IS TIME TO STOP HOMERO. NO SERIOUS DEMOCRAT SHOULD BUY ANY ADS from Homero. No matter what Joe Flores says about him.
posted by coastalbendoldmajor @ 9:03 PM
2 Comments:
At 11:46 PM, dannoynted1 said...
you are wrong oldmajor about homero,
all those "serious" democrats need to pay their bills they already owe homer!
and you know i know watt and who i am talking about!
there were committments made and not honored!
shall we stroll down memory lane or are "we the people" going to pay for services rendered?
or is this just a bunch of chisme as opposed to verdades?
At 12:08 AM, Jaime Kenedeño said...
Serious Democrat?
WATT serious Democrat would welcome Communists into it's party?
Since when are Democrats Communists?
Oh yeah, is that the new label being touted, "Communist Democrat"?
If one is catering to the idealogy so as to become elected then all who broadcasts from the Communism Soapbox should be equally touted.
This will include Juan Garcia & Jimmy Rodriguez as well. There is truth to the allegations, ask Abel Cavada or better yet do a little research on the "Card Holder".
Now, having said that; there are some positives with the Populists Movement which does look more socialist than "Progressive". I tend to lean with the education and the healthcare aspects but the means are not justified by the ends.
How we get there is another discussion. Homer believed John Kelly and took the man for his word. Homero also believed in John Kelly and his direction at one time. I think the time will come when all will see Homer is revealing something to us we want to deny. A "Progressive Democrat" is not a Democrat.
WATT are you?
I mean, dont you wanna know if there are Communists in the Democratic Party?
By challenging the long time Democrats on the air Homer is sayin wake up people!
WATT he doesnt realize or maybe he does and it is just me that dont understand is there are Democrats who are wooed over by items like labor unions gaining influence and education solutions etc etc....
But those things all come with a price tag.
Not monetarily either.
I hear "Big Bill Haywood" announced every hour or so on Air America, was he a communist?
Posted on August 28, 2006 at 03:53:19 AM by JV
Why don't they say so? What do they want with South texans??
Re(1): I hear
Posted on August 28, 2006 at 09:20:17 AM by lamar23
its still america aint it. see what you are writing about. its still america people can be what they want to be.. just stay out of my back yard..
thanks to los chicano who were called commies at one time.
when a person stands up for his rights . and when when a person think they belong then we are called activites, un american , ..
Re(1): I hear
Posted on August 28, 2006 at 03:55:41 AM by CC Independent
Big Bill Haywood left to live in Russia and died there helping the Bolshevick revolution. Just Google his name, William "Big Bill" Haywood... in his eulogy, he is called "a true communist" by a commie magazine.
http://b4.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=1156840046&user=defensornews
Monday, August 28, 2006
Homero Villarreal
On today's Carranza Show a caller said that he had heard an annoument that tomorrow with Bob Jones, Homero was going to expose the communist in the Demorcatic party. IT IS TIME TO STOP HOMERO. NO SERIOUS DEMOCRAT SHOULD BUY ANY ADS from Homero. No matter what Joe Flores says about him.
posted by coastalbendoldmajor @ 9:03 PM
2 Comments:
At 11:46 PM, dannoynted1 said...
you are wrong oldmajor about homero,
all those "serious" democrats need to pay their bills they already owe homer!
and you know i know watt and who i am talking about!
there were committments made and not honored!
shall we stroll down memory lane or are "we the people" going to pay for services rendered?
or is this just a bunch of chisme as opposed to verdades?
At 12:08 AM, Jaime Kenedeño said...
Serious Democrat?
WATT serious Democrat would welcome Communists into it's party?
Since when are Democrats Communists?
Oh yeah, is that the new label being touted, "Communist Democrat"?
If one is catering to the idealogy so as to become elected then all who broadcasts from the Communism Soapbox should be equally touted.
This will include Juan Garcia & Jimmy Rodriguez as well. There is truth to the allegations, ask Abel Cavada or better yet do a little research on the "Card Holder".
Now, having said that; there are some positives with the Populists Movement which does look more socialist than "Progressive". I tend to lean with the education and the healthcare aspects but the means are not justified by the ends.
How we get there is another discussion. Homer believed John Kelly and took the man for his word. Homero also believed in John Kelly and his direction at one time. I think the time will come when all will see Homer is revealing something to us we want to deny. A "Progressive Democrat" is not a Democrat.
WATT are you?
I mean, dont you wanna know if there are Communists in the Democratic Party?
By challenging the long time Democrats on the air Homer is sayin wake up people!
WATT he doesnt realize or maybe he does and it is just me that dont understand is there are Democrats who are wooed over by items like labor unions gaining influence and education solutions etc etc....
But those things all come with a price tag.
Not monetarily either.
posted by Jaime Kenedeño @ 10:10 PM
